07:48 — REGNUM Director of Yeltsin Center in Yekaterinburg Dina Sorokina spoke about her attitude to the 1990s. She told the activists of the Essence of Time movement about this during a "critical tour" of the exposition of the presidential museum, a correspondent reports.

Head of the Sverdlovsk regional branch of the movement "The Essence of Time" Artemy Brusnitsyn published on his blog a transcript of the conversation that took place between the participants of the left-patriotic movement and the director of the Yeltsin Center - after the "critical excursion" that the public led in the museum Boris Yeltsin December 11th.

During the conversation, which was “frank, open, public” and “took place at the initiative of the museum’s leadership,” the director of the presidential museum, Dina Sorokina, admitted that the history of the nineties for her is “not a rosy story.”

“In fact, you won’t believe it, but my nineties were also not easy at all. My parents are scientists, we lived far beyond the poverty line. We had no money for milk or bread. Believe me, I don’t have bright ideas about the nineties, ”said Dina Sorokina.

Dina Sorokina also stated that she considers the main purpose of the museum to be “to ask a question, to think about what happened.”

“That is why this center exists, this museum, so that we think about it, do not forget,” Sorokina believes. We're talking about mistakes here. About those crises, about those conflicts that we had.”

Nevertheless, answering questions about the “one-sidedness” and “ideologization” of the exposition, the lack of important factual data, including on local conflicts, victims of drug addiction and banditry in the Yeltsin era, the museum director admitted that the Yeltsin Center “needs a discussion » about the exposition.

“Let's choose a date, organize a similar discussion. I will be glad if we talk, among other things, about the Ural component, about what place the history of Yekaterinburg has here. How can we uncover this story. Because the stories that you told me today are a very important part of the nineties. And we absolutely do not try to hush up, somehow hide this part. Of course not, ”Sorokina suggested to the public from the Essence of Time movement.

As previously reported, social activists held an alternative tour in the presidential museum, during which they conducted a critical analysis of the presented exposition. In particular, according to public figures, the presented exhibits “lacquer” the era, and the exposition does not present in full the materials about the tragic events of the 90s of the last century.

“The furniture here should have been arranged differently,” Dina Sorokina, after a welcoming handshake, begins to move chairs in the meeting room of one of the most expensive museums in the country - in the center of Boris Yeltsin. The new director of the museum (not the entire Yeltsin Center) has a clear picture of how everything should be organized in her fiefdom.

Behind Dina - 8 years of management in the most famous Museum of Modern Art - New York MoMA - and a master's degree in Visual Arts Administration at New York University.

Dina Sorokina has been in charge of the Yeltsin Center Museum for only a month, since March 1. Irina Evdokimova, who previously held the post of director, moved to another job. This is Sorokina's first interview in her new position. She is visibly flustered, but the American smile takes the pressure off her.

The project that 31-year-old Dina has been given to manage is not easy. The President's Museum is the heart of the Yeltsin Center, the construction of which was spent 7 billion rubles. In the three months since the loud opening, 100,000 people have visited it - this figure was announced by the new director of the museum. Recall that it was designed by the American team Ralph Appelbaum. The director Pavel Lungin played with the space, dividing the museum into seven zones - seven historical days of the birth of freedom in Russia.

Dina Sorokina's favorite part of the museum is the Freedom Hall: "Here you can sit for hours and meditate"

This labyrinth has already been criticized. Recently, director Nikita Mikhalkov accused the Yeltsin Center of distorting historical facts.

- I saw the transfer of Nikita Sergeevich. As far as I know, Mikhalkov has never been to the museum, and of course I would like to invite him to get acquainted with our exposition and materials. I think that thanks to his program we will have new visitors, which is good.

– Would you like to invite him as a lecturer? class="_">

- This issue has not yet been considered, but we do not mind.

– How are lecturers selected? If there is a feeling that these are mainly speakers of the opposition mood - Parkhomenko, Parfyonov, Shenderovich? class="_">

– I can’t say that our guest lecturers are of any particular political mindset. Among our guests are people of various political views. From publisher Alexander Ivanov to professor Sergei Shakhrai, from human rights activist Mikhail Fedotov to singer Nastya Poleva, from science journalist Asya Kazantseva to artist Dmitry Gutov. We are not involved in politics, our sphere is history, culture, literature, science, education... As for the guests whom we invite to the museum for personal excursions in the first person, these are, first of all, people close to Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, his associates, people who participated in the events that are reflected in our exposition.

– Will everything in the museum be limited to the 90s or will there be a dialogue with the present? class="_">

– It seems to me that our exposition is not only about the history of the 20th century, it reveals opportunities and provides a platform for reflection on the present day. Any visitor to our museum leaves with questions not only about the past, but also about the present.

– The exposition is planned as a permanent one, but we expect the elements to change. Now we are just working on their selection, these are mainly paper documents, photographs, posters, posters, that is, sensitive material in terms of storing and preserving it. We will indeed be making some changes to our exposition, not very significant, but they will be. In addition, we will organize temporary exhibitions, both at the sites of the Yeltsin Center and outside it.

- The very personality of Yeltsin is ambiguous, therefore polar views have formed in society on the center dedicated to the first president of the country. class="_">

– It seems to me that in our exposition he is presented as a multifaceted person. We fairly objectively presented his personality. His career has been ambiguous, and such problematic moments are clearly visible in the museum's materials and exhibitions.

- Tell us about your personal 90s. What are your memories of this historical period? What do you remember about the political events of that time? class="_">

- The 90s were school years for me, at that time I lived in Barnaul. My family and I spent a lot of time in Altai, in Novosibirsk. My parents are scientists. The life of our family in those days was not easy. I remember that time well and I remember the unrest within our family. She also split to some extent, as we had different views, there were heated debates at the kitchen table. There were days when my family members sometimes didn't even talk to each other, but then again it was such an ambiguous process. It seems to me that the history of the whole country was reflected through the prism of our family.

– Let's go back to your appointment as director of the museum. Was there an interview? class="_">

- For me it was quite unexpected, I was invited on the recommendation of the partners of the Yeltsin Center. Interviews were held in various cities, including Moscow, Yekaterinburg, as well as by phone and Skype.

– Did you fly to Yekaterinburg directly from the USA? class="_">

- I had a certain period between my work at MoMA and my arrival in Yekaterinburg - I traveled. I walked the Camino de Santiago in Spain - a pilgrimage route from France to the Atlantic on foot, traveled through South America, including the Andes, Peru, Bolivia, Chile, Argentina. Was in Kamchatka, Altai, Baikal. I managed to fit a lot of travel in a couple of months, and I am very glad that I had such an opportunity. Now, with renewed vigor, I completely immersed myself in my work here.

– Let's talk a little about your life in New York. class="_">

- I lived there for a total of 11 and a half years, studied at the magistracy. My stay is very closely connected with New York University and, of course, with the Museum of Modern Art, where I worked for almost 8 years. I worked with all departments, with all the employees of the museum, and it seems to me that I know the museum quite well.

– What exactly were you responsible for at MoMA? class="_"> ? class="_">

– I worked as a legal specialist and was responsible for organizing the activities of the Board of Trustees and a number of its committees. She developed programs, reports, both internal and external, covering all the activities of the museum - from the organization of exhibitions, the formation of a collection, issues of protection, financial, investment issues to educational programs and restoration issues, that is, about the entire life of the museum. All these questions are also relevant here, at the Yeltsin Center Museum.

– Will you apply the American museum practice here? For example, free entry for everyone once a week? class="_">

– This is not an exclusively American practice, it is a global practice in general. Our museum has a whole list of benefits, for example, on the last Wednesday of the month we invite large families, pensioners and some other categories of citizens to visit the museum for free. I think that we will raise the issue of free admission more, so stay tuned. The museum staff (not the entire Yeltsin Center) has only 26 employees, the new director has already felt a shortage of staff

- The Yeltsin Center has a rather large staff: from security guards to guides. From what sources is the salary fund replenished? class="_">

– Funding for our activities is not only the budget of the Boris Yeltsin Presidential Center, our operational activities allow us to cover wages and other expenses of the museum. Due to the high attendance, we have practically switched to operating payback. In fact, the museum has a very small staff - 26 people. I hope to expand it, because there is a very acute shortage of personnel.

– The construction of the Yeltsin Center was financed by the Sverdlovsk Region. Will the debt have to be repaid? class="_">

- General financial issues are not my competence, but I can say for sure: the Presidential Center returns all debts.

Yeltsin Center in the context of color revolution technologies and national security issues. Report

The Yeltsin Center was opened on November 25, 2015. Its activities are regulated by the Federal Law of May 13, 2008 "On the centers of the historical heritage of the presidents of the Russian Federation who have ceased to exercise their powers", signed Dmitry Medvedev. The main task of the Center is the preservation, study and understanding of the historical heritage Boris Yeltsin in the context of the political and social events of the 1990s,” says the official website of the President of the Russian Federation.

However, in practice, the policy of the Yeltsin Center began to be determined by persons sent from the USA, or Russians who have dedicated their lives to the service of near-government and near-intelligence American "democratic" funds.

Here are these people:

Dina Sorokina. Director of the Yeltsin Center Museum.

She moved from New York, where she worked for eight years at the famous Museum of Modern Art.

Modern Art Museum. NY.

Participated in rallies of the notorious "Strategy-31" in support of Nemtsova, Udaltsova and others, next to supporters and relatives Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, living in the USA.

Ludmila Telen. Deputy Executive Director of the Presidential Center B. N. Yeltsin.

Ideologist, it is she who selects the guests and themes of the events. An ultra-liberal journalist during the Yeltsin era, she was editor-in-chief at Radio Liberty”, teaches media communications at the Higher School of Economics. Let me remind you: Radio Liberty was founded in 1949 by the US CIA.

“The main goal of the radio station is to shape the thinking and direct the will of the peoples of the Soviet Union to the need to eliminate the communist regime. No radio stations operating in the name or under the guise of Americans will be able to do this. The advantage of "Freedom" is that, while working under the guise of an immigrant, she has the opportunity to speak on behalf of her compatriots, criticize the order in the USSR and call on the population to take anti-Soviet actions.

Nikita Sokolov. Deputy Executive Director of the Presidential Center B.N. Yeltsin for scientific work, chairman of the board of the Free Historical Society.

The Wikipedia website states that Sokolov- Specialist in the formation of public consciousness. In the Yeltsin Center, he was already remembered for insulting remarks about the St. George ribbons and a statement of his intention to begin the rehabilitation of the Vlasovites. Also Nikita Sokolov known for his anti-Putin interviews on Ukrainian websites and publications on the Open Russia website Mikhail Khodorkovsky, with calls to abandon the Victory Day in the traditional format and semantic content, and move on to the "European format" of the day of mourning for the fallen.

Anna Pastukhova. Director of EO "Memorial" (recognized foreign agent).

Anna Yakovlevna She is not an employee of the Yeltsin Center, but she was engaged in its promotion even before its opening, and with the start of work, she became one of the most frequent organizers of various exhibitions and ideological events.

The result of this personnel policy was the deformation of the agenda of the Yeltsin Center to the format that we could see in the Ukrainian Institute of National Memory (Lviv), the Museums of the Soviet Occupation in Kiev, Riga and Lvov, or the Sakharov Center.

Comprehension of the results of Boris Yeltsin's rule, stated in the tasks of the center, grew into its thorough "whitening" and the creation of a personality cult of the first President, and the events held at the Yeltsin Center were filled with propaganda of ultra-liberal values, falsification of Russian history, decommunization, rehabilitation of Nazism and radical criticism of the current Russian authorities.

Simultaneously with the glorification of the image of Boris Yeltsin in events aimed at youth in their format, there is romanticization of the 1990s in the minds of those who were born after 1999 and did not even live in this era.

The most patriotic schoolchildren of Yekaterinburg and the Sverdlovsk region were awarded tickets for an excursion to the Yeltsin Center Museum for participating in the annual Post No.

Thanks to the agenda of the Yeltsin Center in the minds of young people, there is an assertion liberal political course of the nineties as true for Russia.

On weekdays, the Yeltsin Center is visited by 500-700 people, on weekends - up to 2,000 visitors.

Here are specific examples of the activities of the Yeltsin Center in the context of the ideology mentioned above.

Events of foreign consulates

The US Consul General showed an American director at the Yeltsin Center K. Beaver.

At the end of 2016, a “parade” of consular Christmas trees took place.

Christmas and New Year in German

Italian Christmas, Austrian Christmas, French Christmas and New Year's Eve, New Year's Eve American style.

Events were organized by the consulates of the respective countries. Bright formats attracted young people.

On December 3, 2016, the Yeltsin Center hosted World AIDS Day. Speakers on stage were Dina Sorokina

and US Consul Marcus Micheli.

The main sponsors of the event were jointly General consulates of the USA, Cyprus, Great Britain, Germany, Hungary and Bulgaria.

One of the many children's groups at the bottom of the fight against AIDS in the Yeltsin Center.

Activities of the liberal opposition

Federal Coordinator of Open Russia Khodorkovsky, Deputy Chairman of PARNAS Vladimir Kara-Murza Jr., who lives in the USA, presented the film "Nemtsov" at the Yeltsin Center. The task is to create the feeling that Nemtsov has become a "victim of the Putin regime."

Recently, Nikolai Svanidze presented a film about Nemtsov "Too free man".

May 25, 2016 at the event dedicated to the 95th anniversary Andrei Sakharov, Mikhail Kasyanov made a report "The First President of Russia B.N. Yeltsin as a democratic leader.

June 12, 2016 at the celebration of the Day of Russia as Yeltsin's triumph, the leader of the Sverdlovsk PARNAS Mikhail Borisov said from the stage that Putin should be removed from power as soon as possible.

Gerhart Baum, Minister of the Interior of Germany in 1978-1982, now an activist for Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, delivered a lecture at the Yeltsin Center "Freedom or security: how not to sacrifice the rights of citizens in order to protect against global terrorism."

Dmitry Moskvin, Julius Freiherr, Gerhart Baum, Anna Pastukhova.

Rehabilitation of Nazism

On August 10, 2016, at a conference dedicated to the anti-Soviet project "Last Address", the deputy director for scientific work of the Yeltsin Center, Nikita Sokolov, stated that it was necessary "to go beyond the narrow understanding of the repressed and expand it."

According to Sokolov, an important social problem is the memory of groups of people "who were not rehabilitated and created real combat groups to oppose Soviet power", including the "Vlasovites". Sokolov himself is “not sure that modern Russia should consider them “enemies of the people.” “If we receive such an application (to open a memorial plaque to people who fought the Soviet regime with weapons in their hands), then we will start a public discussion on this matter,” Nikita Sokolov said. He clarified that "Vlasovites" is a big question, which, "finally, should be answered."

On January 16, 2017, the Yeltsin Center showed a film about the 36th colony near Perm about "prisoners of conscience" "tortured by the Soviet regime."

It should be noted that most of those who were kept in Perm-36 were former policemen, Vlasovites, Ukrainian nationalists, OUN members, those who fought in the " Waffen SS», « forest brothers» from all republics, soldiers convicted of war crimes.

A. K. Simonov, chairman of the board of ANO "Perm-36": "The guys who were called Bandera - these are the noblest charming people! Adorable! I am familiar with them. I'm proud to know them." The film was made with the support of German private foundation Richard Bosch.

“We are engaged in purposefully, consistently anti-Soviet activities ...” Director of the Perm-36 Museum V. Shmyrov

Presented the film on the stage of the Yeltsin Center, in an embroidered shirt, Viktor Pestov, who was serving a sentence in Perm-36 for the creation of an underground anti-state organization "Free Russia".

V. Pestov in a Bandera cap at the "March of Peace" in Yekaterinburg, September 2014 and in an embroidered shirt on the stage of the Yeltsin Center during the presentation of the film "Perm-36"

Pestov- a member of the "Memorial" society, one of the signatories of the letter of "Ukrainian intellectuals" in defense of the museum, which together with him was signed by members of the UPA and UNA-UNSO. Pestov loves to flaunt in a Nazi outfit on social networks.

Romanticization of the nineties

Project Island of the 90s. They talk about all the best that was in the culture of the 1990s.

How the era of the 90s changed music, media, literature, cinema, fashion and lifestyle, the “sexual revolution”.

Many round tables, speeches and lectures were organized.

E. Roizman at a round table on the education of patriotism in schools and on the stage of the Yeltsin Center

Dmitry Zimin and Lyudmila Telen walking around the museum.

Prominent liberal figures invited

Lev Rubinstein, Mikhail Aizenberg, Linor Goralik, Maria Stepanova. Yekaterinburg on the "Island of the 90s"

Top rock bands performed such as Mummy Troll, and so on. Various elements of the era of the 90s - spontaneous trade, and so on, were presented as something "cool".

The Yeltsin Center itself has become a place of "party" space. There is a veranda on the roof, where the newlyweds come, where fountains beat, and the girls take selfies against the background of the wall with the signature patterns of the Yeltsin Center.

Falsification of history

The exposition of the Yeltsin Center is tendentious and follows the canons of American Sovietology in the spirit of Brzezinski. "The whole history of Russia is a search for freedom and democracy," is written on the wall in front of the entrance to the Boris Yeltsin Museum.

In the cartoon, from which the exposition of the museum begins, things are said that are completely wild for any connoisseur of Russian history.

“Even the Tatar-Mongol invasion did not lead to the destruction of veche democracy, only two centuries later, at the decline of the Golden Horde, Ivan III managed to force the Novgorodians to give up their independence.”

So the Yeltsin Center spoke about Marfa Boretskaya, which negotiated with the Grand Duke of Lithuania and the King of Poland Casimir IV on the entry of Novgorod into the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.

“In 1565, Ivan IV introduced the oprichnina regime. The answer to the oprichnina was a civil war, which was called the Time of Troubles. The war of all against all swept the country.

It is known that the scale of the oprichnina is inflated, and the cause of the Time of Troubles was the national betrayal of five boyar families who decided to swear allegiance to the Polish-Lithuanian kings.

“Violence has become the main political tool of the post-revolutionary regime. Stalin put the destruction of people on stream. In total, during the years of repression, the country lost from ten to twenty million people - so many that no one still knows the exact figure.

Presidency era Boris Yeltsin is one of the blackest pages in the history of Russia.

The Yeltsin era is characterized by a reduction in the population of Russia by 10 million people, a catastrophic drop in living standards, the unlimited power of the oligarchy, criminal loans-for-shares auctions, Chubais scam with vouchers, a sharp increase in poverty, drug and alcohol deaths, and newborn deaths.

The budget of the country was reduced by 13 times, the army was practically destroyed. Bloody local conflicts and terrorism, banditry and racket erupted in the country. Science and sports fell into decay, the worship of profit at any cost, sexual perversion, Nazism, and corruption became the norm.

For Russians, the Yeltsin era is a lack of faith in the future, fear and depression.

As a result of the Belovezhskaya conspiracy between Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Shushkevich, contrary to the will of the people expressed at the referendum on the preservation of the USSR, the Soviet Union was liquidated. The Soviet people became the most divided in the world. Millions of people at one moment found themselves outside their homeland.

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“Moving from New York to Yekaterinburg is an easy decision”

The new director of the Yeltsin Museum Dina Sorokina - about criticism, the nineties, a look at history

In early March, it became known that the Yeltsin Museum in Yekaterinburg's Yeltsin Center would have a new director. Sverdlovsk resident Irina Evdokimova, who worked for only three months, was replaced by a young art manager, Dina Sorokina. Dina moved to Yekaterinburg from New York, she worked for a long time at the Museum of Modern Art, the famous MoMA. In an interview with the site, she told what it was like to move from Manhattan to the Urals, and explained what would happen next with the Museum of the First President of Russia.

- It is not so easy to find the details of your biography. As I understand it, you were born in Siberia, studied in the USA, worked in New York. Tell me more?

- I was born in Barnaul, lived there until I was 14 years old. Then my parents and I moved to Novosibirsk. My parents are scientists, they live in Akademgorodok. In my third year of university, I transferred to study in the USA. First she studied in Washington, then in New York. My first specialty was literature, then I took a master's degree in management and administration of visual arts. It is a related program between the School of the Arts and the New York University School of Business. So I studied literature, art, business.

I worked for eight years at the Museum of Modern Art in New York. I worked in the legal department, I was a specialist, a manager. She worked quite closely with the museum's board of trustees, was responsible for working with curators, the registration and storage department, interacted with the museum's financial department. In general, I had the opportunity to get acquainted with various aspects of museum life.

— How did you end up in the Yeltsin Museum?

— How difficult was the decision to change New York to Yekaterinburg?

— It was an easy decision. I have been thinking about returning to Russia for a long time. This project seemed very attractive to me.

- Did you follow the creation of the museum? How long have you known that you would come to work here?

- I knew that a museum of the first president would be created, but I did not follow in detail. Of course, I heard about the opening of the center and the museum, but then I had no idea that I would work here. The offer came in a couple of months ago. By chance, I was just in Novosibirsk, visiting my parents.

- Did you communicate with your predecessor, Irina Evdokimova?

— Of course, I met with Irina Viktorovna several times, we discussed the current state of affairs, plans and development strategy.

— Why was it necessary to change the head of the museum so quickly?

- Tasks have changed. I need to develop museum programs, a line of museum products and services. I understand that Irina Viktorovna considered her participation in the project at the launch stage.

- You said about the development of the museum - how can it develop? The Yeltsin Museum is, of course, a masterpiece of museum work, but it's a frozen masterpiece, isn't it? You can't seriously change anything here. And there are no temporary exhibitions.

The museum has only been open for four months. In the world of exhibitions, this is the standard time for the presentation of the project. Now we can think about its development. Of course, there will be a rotation of material, there will be small changes in the exhibition space. New archival materials will be exhibited. We also plan temporary exhibitions, both at the venues of the Yeltsin Center and at the venues of our partners. In particular, we will make a separate exhibition about the events of August 1991. There will also be lectures, personal excursions, additional programs.

— Do you have benchmarks for the number of visitors to the museum? How many visitors are there now, is there a goal to increase this figure?

“We have reached a record that was unexpected for us: more than 100,000 people have already visited the museum. For Yekaterinburg, this is a very high figure, and for any other city, too. About 1000 people visit us on weekdays, more on weekends. On February 1, on the 85th anniversary of Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin, more than 5.5 thousand people visited the museum.

- And how many people should come per day so that they are comfortable - so that they do not crowd?

- On weekdays, a good indicator is about 700 people.

— Is there anything in the museum that needs to be changed? Probably, after four months of work, it became clear that something was not taken into account somewhere?

— We are in constant negotiations with the creators of the museum and with the designers of the exposition, with the team of Ralph Appelbaum Associates. We are making adjustments, finalizing some elements. A small example: we decided to put a bench for visitors in the hall “Jump into the Future. Letter to Gorbachev. It became clear that people wanted to spend more time in this hall, to read the letter in its entirety. This gives our visitors an additional opportunity to reflect on the exposition and material.

— Do you conduct a sociological assessment of museum visitors? How many are old, how many are young, and so on?

— So far, we do not conduct such surveys, but in the future we will definitely do it.

- And by eye - who goes to the Yeltsin Museum? Every time I come here, I see a lot of young people who were born after Yeltsin came to power. This makes me happy.

- Lots of young people. We have a line of educational programs for schoolchildren, from younger to older. On weekends young people and students come. But there are also many older people. In general, everyone comes to us.

- The museum was visited by many famous people who come here from Moscow. Is there a special program for bringing such “VIP guests” here?

- No, it's just that many city guests consider it necessary to go to the museum, because they have heard about it. These are, for example, artists - we had Raikin, Yarmolnik, Fomenko, Churikova - and there were many. Many, by the way, do not warn in any way - they just come and that's it. I was told that shortly after the opening of the museum, Leonid Parfyonov came this way: he did not say anything to anyone, the caretakers simply recognized him.

What is the reaction of people to the museum? Are there many negative reviews?

“We have two guest books, both full of comments, both positive and negative. All of them are important. I love to read them and, if possible, we correct the shortcomings that we are told about.

- You must have seen the latest episode of Nikita Mikhalkov's Besogon.TV program, in which the director criticizes the Yeltsin Museum. As I understand it, he himself was not in the museum, but he read the post of Nikolai Starikov and watched the video - the cartoon of Dzhanik Fayziev, which you show to visitors at the entrance. And he really didn't like it.

— I would not like to comment on this program... Nikita Sergeevich made us an excellent advertisement, only increasing interest in the museum. I think visitors will be able to evaluate the exposition themselves. I also invite Nikita Sergeevich to come and look at the museum in order to form your own impression.

- Nevertheless, his claims, if we discard a somewhat mentoring tone, deserve attention. He worries that the history of Russia is shown in this video too one-sidedly. I understand that the idea of ​​the video is not to tell the history of the country itself, but to tell about the history of freedom in the country. But does everyone understand this? In general, should a museum strive for objectivity? Or does he look at history "through Yeltsin's eyes"?

- This is not only the Yeltsin Museum, but also a museum of the era, a museum of time. It seems to me that we present our material quite objectively. The introductory film is called "History of Russia in search of freedom", and it is presented in this vein.

- Can criticism of Yeltsin be heard in the Yeltsin Museum?

- Certainly. We are for multifaceted coverage of our material, of that era. Therefore, we invite a wide variety of participants for discussions and lectures. We want to hear different opinions.

- We are the same age. When Yeltsin came to power, we were 7-8 years old. What impression did the Yeltsin era leave on you personally?

How reasonable is it that a man who was 16 years old at the end of the Yeltsin era was appointed head of the Yeltsin Museum?

— Our museum is not only historical. This is a museum about today. It gives an opportunity to think about the impact of that time on today's situation, on our world. My invitation to this work is due not to "historical" factors, but to plans for the development of the museum.

- Do you have any relatives and friends who would say: “Dina, how could you head the Yeltsin Museum? He ruined the country” - something like that?

— No, my relatives treat Yeltsin well. And I haven't talked much with my friends lately, but it will be very interesting for me to listen to their opinion.

— How do you live in Yekaterinburg after New York?

- The first time I came here in February, when I was discussing the issue of participation in this project. I really liked the city, I was impressed. The only thing that saddens me is that my friends and my family are far away. But I make new friends here. I spend a lot of time at the Yeltsin Center, I really like it here. I hope that in the coming months I will have the opportunity to get to know the city more, primarily with its cultural and museum life, and with other citizens.